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Poster: snow_and_rain Date: Dec 13, 2012 7:40am
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: 12.12.12. Sandy Benefit Concert Live Stream

Yeah, I hate to sound like the an old fuddy-duddy, but I don't understand why he's famous.

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Poster: deadpolitics Date: Dec 13, 2012 8:39am
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: 12.12.12. Sandy Benefit Concert Live Stream

He's a drama queen and a cheesy dude, but he does produce some pretty catchy tracks. I don't like his lyrics/delivery but his productions are rather high quality.

His talents in track production set him apart from most pop stars that don't write any of their own stuff and are just pretty puppets.

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Poster: snow_and_rain Date: Dec 13, 2012 8:46am
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: 12.12.12. Sandy Benefit Concert Live Stream

I guess... but take one of the songs he did last night, for example. The music he was rapping over was just a long sample of the horns from Curtis Mayfield's classic "Move on Up." How does doing that demonstrate talent?

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Poster: deadpolitics Date: Dec 13, 2012 2:24pm
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: 12.12.12. Sandy Benefit Concert Live Stream

The making of the beat does take skill and artistic vision: sampling the horns, playing a bass and drum synth, mixing, and mastering the track, etc.

There is more to making that music than just pulling a sample, which in itself takes skill and musical taste to do right.

That being said, I don't think Kanye is a very talented rapper or poet. There are plenty of other rappers that don't produce their own music that I highly respect for their talents in lyric writing and vocal ability.

For example, these guys are great and are really fun to see live: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IqqPyKumZqM

The sampling in this track is top notch. I often listen to the album this track is from, it's a tribute to The Big Lebowski: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=S3rfXWBcXOs

This post was modified by deadpolitics on 2012-12-13 22:24:47

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Poster: unclejohn52 Date: Dec 13, 2012 9:24am
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: 12.12.12. Sandy Benefit Concert Live Stream

That's my knock on a lot of rap "artists"... agree 100%. I prefer to think of this stuff as street poetry, not "music."